CW Monday 8pm timeslot swap between Supegirl-Legends

I suspect that part of the reason for this extended SG break in the New Year (Feb. to Apr.) isn't so much to accommodate the Olympics and March Madness or to allow LOT to finish its season as it is to allow Greg Berlanti to get up to speed with Supergirl and assist with the show's creative direction.

Consider this: Andrew K. was one of the EP's, a co-creator, and a consultant for the show and with his unceremonious departure, Greg Berlanti will fill in his role for the remaining part of the season. It's possible that once GB gets an on the ground / hands-on lowdown of the show and it's direction, that this short-term hiatus will enable Rovner and Queller to focus more on running the show than worry about the interim creative loss. Since the Flash was and remains the leading superhero CW program, the ideas and creative direction may be more firmly set as it has had a longer run than Supergirl and may be able to run itself more easily with little hands-on assistance from GB.

Given that GB, Sarah Schechter, Ali Adler and Andrew K. were the initiators for the show (and that two of them are now gone for different reasons), it would make sense that there would be a need for a small hiatus in order for the show to gain its directional bearings with such a creative loss during the season. Also, it is possible that the show had enough ideas going to push it through 13 episodes without overtaxing themselves creatively. But, with the departure of AK, a new-ish set of eyes and idea generation was needed to help push the show to its 23-episode S3 objectives.

Pure speculation, I know, but it would make sense with the departure of a key figure, the introduction of a new show - Black Lightning - and the overall directional challenges various CW shows faced with AK's dismissal.

I think it is a combination of
1. The CW has to have 2 CBS shows on each week, so that is two time slots that cannot be used....EVER.
2. They have said they will never have 5 Superhero shows on at the same time.
3. Berlanti coming on the scene full time as a creative push.
4. You don't mess with your #1 Superhero show or your #4 Superhero show, so it is SG and LoT.

One of the benefits is however, moving past the Olympics and March Madness....NO, neither of those things are why Supergirl is taking the 9 week hit....HOWEVER, LoT will be hit in the ratings. That is not good for them....

But in the end, all will be renewed and people really just need to chill.

Twitter has gone absolutely nuts. I swear it is time for me to totally mute twitter for good. Whining fans are so annoying.

The CW president Mark Pedowitz said at the network's upforont that they won't have more than four superhero shows on at the same time so this is how they're doing that. Does this announcement have me jumping for joy, no but I believe everything's going to be fine. I'm not overly concerned about the show getting renewed. Hopefully the network makes the announcement in early January again. After this season there will be 65 total episodes that's not enough for syndication but too close for the network to give up on that future revenue stream.

I'm going to make a conscience effort to stay positive. As others have said Supergirl won't be going up against several sporting events anymore. Lucifer and the Voice which are some of the biggest competition on Monday nights will be over when the last episodes air. It will be a very short time between the finale and SDCC and summer break will be four weeks or so shorter. I am grateful for everyone on this site, I know we will help each other get through the long break.

I suspect that part of the reason for this extended SG break in the New Year (Feb. to Apr.) isn't so much to accommodate the Olympics and March Madness or to allow LOT to finish its season as it is to allow Greg Berlanti to get up to speed with Supergirl and assist with the show's creative direction.

Consider this: Andrew K. was one of the EP's, a co-creator, and a consultant for the show and with his unceremonious departure, Greg Berlanti will fill in his role for the remaining part of the season. It's possible that once GB gets an on the ground / hands-on lowdown of the show and it's direction, that this short-term hiatus will enable Rovner and Queller to focus more on running the show than worry about the interim creative loss. Since the Flash was and remains the leading superhero CW program, the ideas and creative direction may be more firmly set as it has had a longer run than Supergirl and may be able to run itself more easily with little hands-on assistance from GB.

Given that GB, Sarah Schechter, Ali Adler and Andrew K. were the initiators for the show (and that two of them are now gone for different reasons), it would make sense that there would be a need for a small hiatus in order for the show to gain its directional bearings with such a creative loss during the season. Also, it is possible that the show had enough ideas going to push it through 13 episodes without overtaxing themselves creatively. But, with the departure of AK, a new-ish set of eyes and idea generation was needed to help push the show to its 23-episode S3 objectives.

Pure speculation, I know, but it would make sense with the departure of a key figure, the introduction of a new show - Black Lightning - and the overall directional challenges various CW shows faced with AK's dismissal.

I said this in another thread. Supergirl will be fine. It doesn't mean I have to like the change. It's just so haphazard, and poor planning on CW's part. They have more shows than they can fit on their network.

Hopefully, we'll have a repeat of last year, and we'll get a renewal before the 4 new episodes are finished. Hell, last year, we got renewal before the mid-season even started!

I just think that, for the casual viewer, who doesn't stalk the internet about their favorite shows, this change will throw them for a loop.

What this really means is that they need to kick up the ADVERTISING. When Supergirl's mid-season starts, they need to continue to promote new episodes of Supergirl, but advertise when Legends comes back. And vica versa. When Legends comes back, they need to promote the crap out of when Supergirl returns.

How this new schedule pans out could be GREATLY influenced by how they advertise. If they get ahead of it, and start advertisements for something like "23 weeks of new DC TV on Monday nights! 4 new episodes of Supergirl, starting on January 15th, followed by 9 new episodes of DC's Legends of Tomorrow, starting February 12th, leading to the season finale on April 9th. Then, Supergirl returns with 10 straight weeks of new episodes, starting on April 16th, leading to the season finale on June 18th".

I doubt they'll advertise it that well. But that's what they should do. Because, if they REALLY want people to look at the positive, 23 straight weeks of new DC TV on Mondays at 8/7 Central is a big deal.

Gawd, I hope they don't advertise it like that, that is confusing as hell....lol

I said this in another thread. Supergirl will be fine. It doesn't mean I have to like the change. It's just so haphazard, and poor planning on CW's part. They have more shows than they can fit on their network.

Hopefully, we'll have a repeat of last year, and we'll get a renewal before the 4 new episodes are finished. Hell, last year, we got renewal before the mid-season even started!

I just think that, for the casual viewer, who doesn't stalk the internet about their favorite shows, this change will throw them for a loop.

What this really means is that they need to kick up the ADVERTISING. When Supergirl's mid-season starts, they need to continue to promote new episodes of Supergirl, but advertise when Legends comes back. And vica versa. When Legends comes back, they need to promote the crap out of when Supergirl returns.

How this new schedule pans out could be GREATLY influenced by how they advertise. If they get ahead of it, and start advertisements for something like "23 weeks of new DC TV on Monday nights! 4 new episodes of Supergirl, starting on January 15th, followed by 9 new episodes of DC's Legends of Tomorrow, starting February 12th, leading to the season finale on April 9th. Then, Supergirl returns with 10 straight weeks of new episodes, starting on April 16th, leading to the season finale on June 18th".

I doubt they'll advertise it that well. But that's what they should do. Because, if they REALLY want people to look at the positive, 23 straight weeks of new DC TV on Mondays at 8/7 Central is a big deal.

Also think about it this way, why would you move your #1 rated CB series, and/or your lowest rated CB series. Arrow has been bleeding viewership...

Supergirl has been the steadiest one of the bunch. YES, WE WOULD LOVE .9 RATINGS, etc...but the series has been gaining viewers with each episode, and has been solid at .5 or above.... so we as the fans hate it, but it isn't nearly as bad as so many are making it out to be. It's all good....especially when we get those last 10 episodes in a row, and then 2 weeks later we start getting news about Season 4.....YES SEASON 4....at SDCC.

If you miss Melissa, just watch her in late January into February in "Waco" on the new Paramount channel....that will hold you over. And on each Monday night, just watch an episode of SG and there, the 9 weeks will go by without a hitch. Ya just gotta look for the good.

Better Legends than Supergirl to deal with the Olympics and March Madness.

This is a non-issue.

Supergirl is doing fine and the switch will affect LOT more than it will our GOS. LOT will contend with the Olympics, March Madness and other issues such as the February blahs and a longer wait for LOT's S4 to begin. Supergirl's wait for S4 to begin will be shorter and it will allow us to enjoy new shows until June. That's a bonus.

AAAAAAAAAAAA "freaking" MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

Preach on.....

This is a non-issue.

Supergirl is doing fine and the switch will affect LOT more than it will our GOS. LOT will contend with the Olympics, March Madness and other issues such as the February blahs and a longer wait for LOT's S4 to begin. Supergirl's wait for S4 to begin will be shorter and it will allow us to enjoy new shows until June. That's a bonus.

WTH??? How do they expect viewers to be able to survive two extended droughts of Supergirl within one season?

I wonder if this is a by-product of Berlanti taking over adding to an already full plate of shows along with two additional new shows lined up to start this season.

A plausible theory there Sully. Given of course the firing of Andrew Kreisberg, which has sent things into a tailspin if you ask me. Hopefully showrunners can be found to take over for him and that way things can show some semblance of normalcy.

I honestly think it has nothing to do with Kreisberg. People forget that Kreisberg had just as big a role on Flash as he did Supergirl. And we're not seeing these kind of shake ups, over there.


Here's what I think. CW had too many shows set to premiere in the Spring. Arrow and Flash will likely have a break in the Spring, we well. It just may not be as long as Supergirl's because they are using Supergirl's break to finish Legends' season.

While I HATE having such a long break, mid season, it may ultimately work out in both CW and Supergirl's favor.

You're right, Supergirl gets to miss the Winter Olympics and March Madness. And CW gets to continue airing AT LEAST 2 new episodes of superhero TV per week. Because even if/when Flash and Arrow go on Spring break, Legends will be finishing their season, and Black Lightning will likely be airing it's season without a break, since it's a Mid Season show.

Arrow and Flash typicaly end in May. But thanks to the Legends/Supergirl swap, they will continue to have new episodes of at least ONE show, Supergirl, into mid-late June.

And a lot of Supergirl's other competition will be gone while it finishes it's run, as many shows wrap their seasons in April or May.

OOOOOK, so it looks like Supergirl is getting 23 episodes after counting all of this craziness up. AND, for all practical purposes people.....LoT is getting the raw end of this deal with the Olympics, March Madness, etc.....so really we should be happy at this point. 23 episodes, and not dealing with any of the sporting events of that time period.

BE HAPPY PEOPLE.....WE ARE ALLLLLL GOOD!

23 eh? Well I guess if that number worked for Michael Jordan and is doing things for LeBron James and it did things for Don Mattingly of the Yankees back in the day (as I age myself closer to 44 years of life)...it can do things for Supergirl. This is the most episodes I think in a season for the show. But even still it's stinks LoT is getting shipped around so to speak. But this is Supergirl friends, so perhaps we can appreciate what has become a gift for us this upcoming Christmas season.

Well it is 23 unless we skip a Monday somewhere...but as it is, that is 23 episodes.

OOOOOK, so it looks like Supergirl is getting 23 episodes after counting all of this craziness up. AND, for all practical purposes people.....LoT is getting the raw end of this deal with the Olympics, March Madness, etc.....so really we should be happy at this point. 23 episodes, and not dealing with any of the sporting events of that time period.

BE HAPPY PEOPLE.....WE ARE ALLLLLL GOOD!

Yes, there is a silver lining and I will eventually calm down to see it. But, at this minute, I want to stomp around, kick the dirt and scream at the world for the injustice of it all . Give me my five minutes, okay

OOOOOK, so it looks like Supergirl is getting 23 episodes after counting all of this craziness up. AND, for all practical purposes people.....LoT is getting the raw end of this deal with the Olympics, March Madness, etc.....so really we should be happy at this point. 23 episodes, and not dealing with any of the sporting events of that time period.

BE HAPPY PEOPLE.....WE ARE ALLLLLL GOOD!

23 eh? Well I guess if that number worked for Michael Jordan and is doing things for LeBron James and it did things for Don Mattingly of the Yankees back in the day (as I age myself closer to 44 years of life)...it can do things for Supergirl. This is the most episodes I think in a season for the show. But even still it's stinks LoT is getting shipped around so to speak. But this is Supergirl friends, so perhaps we can appreciate what has become a gift for us this upcoming Christmas season.

OOOOOK, so it looks like Supergirl is getting 23 episodes after counting all of this craziness up. AND, for all practical purposes people.....LoT is getting the raw end of this deal with the Olympics, March Madness, etc.....so really we should be happy at this point. 23 episodes, and not dealing with any of the sporting events of that time period.

BE HAPPY PEOPLE.....WE ARE ALLLLLL GOOD!

WTH??? How do they expect viewers to be able to survive two extended droughts of Supergirl within one season?

I wonder if this is a by-product of Berlanti taking over adding to an already full plate of shows along with two additional new shows lined up to start this season.

A plausible theory there Sully. Given of course the firing of Andrew Kreisberg, which has sent things into a tailspin if you ask me. Hopefully showrunners can be found to take over for him and that way things can show some semblance of normalcy.

WTH??? How do they expect viewers to be able to survive two extended droughts of Supergirl within one season?

I wonder if this is a by-product of Berlanti taking over adding to an already full plate of shows along with two additional new shows lined up to start this season.

This is an example of the old adage too many cooks spoil the broth. There are now FAR TOO MANY super hero shows now on the CW. What is Warner's thinking?!

To break it down, it's understandable SG does not come back till the 15th because on the 8th lots of TVs are likely to tune into the NCAA college football championship on ESPN (prediction...Alabama finds a way to win it all...ROLL TIDE!)

The only other times off I know of which involve sports...the NCAA men's basketball title game which is likely to be decided on a Monday.

This sounds though to me like Supergirl is being dragged around like a rag doll just like Reign did to her. And to me and maybe all of you, it's unfair.

That said I like Legends of Tomorrow and their mix of wit, humor, action and even some heart. Why not just cancel Valor on Monday nights, CW which is tanking in the ratings?

Looks like SG would end up with 23 episodes, assuming there are no off weeks. That's the 9 already broadcast, 4 in Jan and Feb, and 10 more from April 16 thru June 18.

AND, the CW needs to get out in front of this and answer some of these questions before Twitter erupts in wrong information.